The Guardian view on Donald Trump a racist in substance and style

first_img Share on Facebook Donald Trump Trump is Fascist. 17 18 | Pick Twitter 41 42 Share on Twitter Facebook Share via Email Share expanded 4d ago Reply Share on Twitter Report AJVC1991 45 46 jwlghawglehgaugl 4d ago | Pick US elections 2020 Share on Facebook 141 142 Share Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share via Email recommendations Zé Miguel Cardoso Pereira Jake Choir Share on Messenger | Pick comments (506)Sign in or create your Guardian account to join the discussion. 16 17 Gelion papalazaru Report Eh?! Didn’t he do exactly that?! Facebook Facebook Shares804804 Share More people voted for him than didn’t though. Slightly worrying the might of the EU and U.K. seems quite impotent. Yes some pretty dire things have been said but all this pontificating, hand wringing, name calling and general moaning will not change him. He keeps his word though. Most of our politicians don’t and lie at the drop of a hat. They deny what people vote for. Isn’t that ever so slightly worse? Seamus Beeden Share on Twitter next Report Jump to comment JimCricket Share on Facebook Report Share on Facebook FourString Report Share Reply 11 12 | Pick ColinCaserole The answer in recognizing and organizationing around identity politics based on the working class. Period. Race while a factor is not the primary factor. Dividing the improvised working class in places in the rust belt and west into neat little categories of the privileged whites and the oppressed people of colour is doing their work for them. Divide and rule is their mantra don’t help them. charlieblue Share on Facebook Well, that’s his mindset. He actually believes putting fear into people will force them to respect him. Anyway, Twitter Compares Trump To Obama With Brutal Hashtag #ObamaWasBetterAt. Twitter balancedtrue Jump to comment HellHoundOnMyTrail This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. 6 7 Guardian Pick Twitter Show 5 more replies Share on Twitter 4d ago AP_in_UA Share on Facebook 4d ago 4d ago papalazaru Report Email (optional) Facebook Show 25 Share on Facebook Twitter Share on Twitter Report Twitter Report Facebook 8 9 Share on Facebook Anybody who has ever lived anywhere where they were the racial minority has heard this trope, “go home”. It’s an aggressive and vicious way of undercutting a persons sense of safety and well being. It’s meant to ostracize and belittle. The President treating any American citizen this way should be cause for concern to all of us. That he singled out 4 non-white women, who are elected officials in a co-equal branch of government to attack this way,… unthreaded 4d ago Report 121 122 Facebook ColinCaserole Yup but you are going to get some people trying to deny that 🙁 Loading comments… Trouble loading? 54 55 Share on Facebook 79 80 allthewayfromHolland Reply Share on Twitter 25 Achillesheel2010 | Pick Share Twitter | Pick | Pick However a combination of racists (who don’t always vote due to a lack of suitable candidates) and people who would vote for an Orangutan if it was running as a Republican might, unfortunately, be enough to get him over the line. Particularly if the Democrats decide that a safe establishment candidate is the way to go. Share on Twitter | Pick Ross King 4d ago Share Facebook Facebook Guardian Pick Twitter newest Share Report Report Comments 506 Report Report 160 161 Share on Facebook Share on Twitter 4 5 Share on Facebook Share Hephaestuslegs Share on Twitter 4d ago Report Facebook | Pick 4d ago | Pick Share Share on Facebook Editorial Share ColinCaserole | Pick 4d ago mikedow He’s no longer dog-whistling… he is simply saying it straight out with impunity… pandering to the worst instincts of his country… Reply Trump was always a racist and everyone knows it, that he is throwing red meat to his base is just par for the course.What’s worrying Trump is not only the Squads ethnicity but the fact that Pelosi had isolated them. He needs the Dems to own them, his whole re-election strategy relies on tarring the Dem’s with the socialist brush. 4d ago 23 24 Twitter Reply There must have been psephological research done by the Republicans to show that emitting racist views can win more votes than lose votes. Although Trump is generally abusive and misogynist he is also very wily . However the top Republicans have shown themselves to be spineless in not criticising Trump. His economics will end up with a lot more debt for America. US citizens are buying Chinese goods because they think that they are better than American goods. Those American firms that have stopped competing with their Chinese competitors tends to show that the US has lost it’s innovative mojo. Share on Facebook Fishgirl23 Facebook Report Share on Twitter | Pick Share on Facebook Share on Twitter | Pick Reply 4d ago 4d ago Reply 4d ago Facebook Facebook jwlghawglehgaugl ‘Donald Trump is an heir to the tradition of American failure on race.’Photograph: Nicholas Kamm/AFP/Getty Images Trump openly demonstrates he’s a racist, but I wouldn’t be surprised if his attitude strikes a chord with many, right across the globe. Many are outwardly politically correct, but at heart might just agree with him, whether they’re in the US, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Hungary, Israel, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, India, Pakistan, Japan, China … If they weren’t racist in even a slight way, and felt for others of races in the same way they felt… Reply | Pick 3 Reply | Pick 4d ago Share on Facebook Twitter 41 42 Share on Twitter 4d ago 4d ago allthewayfromHolland heavenairport nonanon1 4d ago | Pick | Pick Reply Share on Facebook 13 14 Facebook Reply Twitter Phalaris Facebook 33 34 nonanon1 US immigration Twitter | Pick rumblestrips Sorry there was an error. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact Userhelp The crazy thing is: If you really work together it always, ALWAYS ,is better, more profitable for all sides, that cooperate. The only reason why this sometimes isn‘t the case is, that certain people/politicians put heavy weights and costs on cooperation, because they would lose their power without divide and conquer. But all things being equal, cooperation always is more profitable and better for all sides in the long run. The sad thing is: you c… FatFreddyCat jwlghawglehgaugl Twitter This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Reply Reply Share on Facebook Show 2 more replies 16 17 30 31 Reply Reply Share on Facebook Gtardkgb Share on Facebook Reply This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. 4d ago Show 1 more reply | Pick 4d ago 50 This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. 4d ago Twitter Share on Twitter Twitter Reply DrAngelicus Share on Twitter Share on Twitter 35 36 4d ago Share on Twitter Hmmm, if sending people back is an option can I suggest Trump returns to Germany,…some time in the 1930s should suit him? Report 4d ago HellHoundOnMyTrail Twitter US politics 95 96 The language and othering Trump is marshaling can be found in the Nazi archives. Reply Share Twitter Facebook Jump to comment The problem is the Democrats are in no mood to nominate a mainstream candidate. It’ll be whoever can cobble against the most resilient alliance of disparate interest groups. That won’t be Biden, the only candidate with a double digit lead over Trump. The Democrats have spent so long reprinting the best VP in 40 years as a dangerous predator that they could never accept him now. Share on Facebook Tue 16 Jul 2019 13.59 EDT OldDirtyBAStart Reply 4d ago Share Aye thats why I said “the US establishment”, the people on both sides of the aisle who are just fine with this setup, this cosplay #resistance slay-qween bullshit Pelosi gets to engage in while feathering her own nest, the pathetic hand-wringing ‘This Is Not Who We Are’ platitudes spouted by people who are exactly that. I feel for the millions, I truly do, because they are helpless. Reply Show 4 more replies Facebook Tavennaser To be honest the 11 million undocumented immigrants are living in the country illegally. They committed an illegal act in crossing the border when all other immigrants have to go through a lengthy process. Why is it racist to try and deport these illegal immigrants? Twitter 4d ago Report Share OldDirtyBAStart Share Share Share on Facebook Reply Order by oldest 103 104 4d ago Share on Twitter Hillbilly is the word. As in Sarah Hillbilly Sanders. 106 107 Demagogues have always sought to distract from their iniquitous policies by victimising, dividing and propagating hate. If enough people fall for this to re-elect Trump then the US is a lost cause and we as a nation must remove ourselves from its orbit. Obviously this is the worst possible time to leave the EU. Reply JimCricket Reply This man puts the so-called “special relationship under severe strain. Unfortunately, the man most likely to take residence in 10 Downing Street next week, will crawl to and fawn over this disgusting man for his own purposes. As we said during the Iraq war demonstrations “not in my name”. | Pick Like the one we have here in the UK? Share on Facebook Reply Share Opinion Twitter Reply Share 3 Facebook Zé Miguel Cardoso Pereira Twitter 18 19 Share Reply Twitter Facebook Share Guardian Pick and what does mister Trump have to say about the Indian community, the original inhabitants of America? Guardian Pick 4d ago HellHoundOnMyTrail Facebook rumblestrips Gelion Share Share on Facebook stevensj | Pick Facebook FatFreddyCat Share on Twitter Progress. | Pick Reply Twitter stevetyphoon Reply 4d ago rumblestrips Twitter 4d ago Reason (optional) Share on Pinterest Reply Report Report Jump to comment 4d ago 4d ago | Pick Twitter This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Share Twitter This is obviously too complex for you… 2 Guardian Pick Jake Choir In that, he has outplayed the Dems. Again. Um. No. She slammed him for his racism. next Trump is too stupid to understand what racism is. And Kellyanne Conway? Wow, she makes Mince Davies look sharp. 4d ago Reply 4d ago 4d ago SW_1973 Share on Facebook Report Facebook Facebook 4d ago Report Why is there an expectation that the US should be better than it is? Russia is backward, that is accepted. But for some reason we need a constant analysis of Trump and the US as if we cant quite get our heads around it too being backward. The US has not yet had the political and social revolutions that European nations have had. Its stuck in a divisive civil war and constitutionally it is destined to stay that way. Twitter Report 4d ago 109 110 HellHoundOnMyTrail 4d ago Share Twitter Share on Twitter 4d ago There is a really interesting study on financial crashes and in all the 20 studied, every single one, experienced huge spikes in populism – both left and right wing. Every single time rather than taking a look at what caused it, at the root issue, we had demagogues pop along and whip up everyone in to a frenzy and blame the likes of immigrants. FatFreddyCat Ross King Facebook 106 107 rumblestrips Report Report Share on Facebook Multi-cultural United States, is the United States. Hence when Mr Trump advises to others “go home,” one can only wonder where it may be that he lays his hat himself. He ain’t no American, bruv. Share on Twitter Share on Twitter 4 5center_img editorials Share Explain to me please thank you Report 4d ago Similar folk in one of the recent John Harris vox pops, I suppose they feel “safe” in coming out with this bilious nonsense since the referendum. What really gets up my nose is that these idiots assume that because you’re white and English, you must perforce share their bigotry. Trump spent 8 years doing nothing but complaining about America under Obama, so by his own dimmwitted logic he shouldn’t be President and should be tweeting from Germany. The language and othering Trump is marshaling can be found in the Nazi archives. tinoflyer 4d ago Twitter Report 4d ago Reply | Pick Report 4d ago Facebook Reply Share on Twitter 27 28 balancedtrue Share on Facebook 9 10 4d ago Facebook Reply Tavennaser Share justamentalpatient 4d ago 4d ago | Pick Facebook OldDirtyBAStart Share Reply Facebook Share on Twitter Jump to comment Twitter | Pick Report 4d ago 4d ago Share on Twitter AlienBodo Reply Share Report TeDots A weird thing happened recently, when I was walking the dog, there was this couple walking along, and they made a fuss of the dog, then for some reason they started going on about all the foreigners and the state of our left behind town (you know, all the shops now are betting shops or pawn shops), but what I found really weird was when they went further in their views on the foreigners, and said “the Indian ones and the black ones are OK, but them European ones are horrible”. I was gobsmacked and couldn’t help smiling, daft fuckwits (you know 3 or 4 years ago it would have been the non-whites). But it looks like the complete immorality, and constant shifting of position according to what is convenient at the time that you see in populist leaders has spread to their followers. Jump to comment 29 30 Report Twitter struttingpig 9 10 Share Share Share 2 stevensj WunWunWagDerWun Facebook 175 176 Share on LinkedIn Share on Facebook 14 15 4d ago UK politicians sprout crap between the hours of 9am and 6pm GMTAmerican politicians take over after 6pm GMT 15 16 Yup. His comments about “the Squad” are despicable, but the whole point was to get Pelosi to hug the wackier wing of the Dems close, rather than play down their impact (as she had been doing in the days before this latest Twatter storm…) In that, he has outplayed the Dems. Again. Facebook Reply Report Share Share on Twitter Share on Facebook 22 23 Achillesheel2010 justamentalpatient I was thinking more Jane and John. Guardian Pick Share Share This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Share on Facebook TeDots Share on Twitter Share struttingpig Share on Twitter Report It’s important to point out *millions* of Americans oppose Trump, indeed he lost the popular vote don’t forget. 31 32 4d ago Share on Facebook Share | Pick 4d ago nonanon1 Share on Twitter Reply Reply Share on Twitter What really gets up my nose is that these idiots assume that because you’re white and English, you must perforce share their bigotry. Oh, yes. That gets right on my tits! 100 36 37 rumblestrips Facebook We know the USA is better than this and better than him. If Americans deal with this crisis properly it will move on and in another 20 or so years the USA won’t even be a white majority country, it will be what it was meant to be, a lovely creative melting pot. Twitter reading99 The Guardian view on Donald Trump: a racist in substance and style | Pick OldDirtyBAStart | Pick Twitter HellHoundOnMyTrail Reuse this content,View all comments > Share on Twitter Twitter collapsed fortyniner 4d ago Share Tavennaser Share on Twitter Share | Pick 4 Share on Twitter ‘Vote for me, I’m a racist’, isn’t generally a good electoral ploy. There aren’t enough white supremacists in America to get Trumpski over the line. I think he’s jumped the shark on this one. Trump is a complete moron. As such, it was only a matter of time before he fucked up massively. And here we are. 38 39 34 35 Share on Facebook zippy200 The game is up. Don the Ripper has seen the poll numbers. He knows he has zero chance against a mainstream Democratic nominee. He’s desperately provoking the Democratic members of Congress in the forlorn hope that they commence impeachment proceedings. It’s the only way of turning the election from a referendum on his abject failure as a President to a reality TV farce. It’s pathetic and hopefully the Democrats won’t fall for it. rumblestrips Twitter Report Rob Austen-Brown Share Report justamentalpatient Share on Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick 1 balancedtrue Reply … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian will engage with the most critical issues of our time – from the escalating climate catastrophe to widespread inequality to the influence of big tech on our lives. At a time when factual information is a necessity, we believe that each of us, around the world, deserves access to accurate reporting with integrity at its heart.More people are reading and supporting The Guardian’s independent, investigative journalism than ever before. 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Share on Facebook Threads collapsed Reply Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick Donald Trump’s agenda is to turn the clock back in the United States half a century, to a time when elected leaders spoke the language of white supremacy. Like Mr Trump, they did not use dog whistles. Until 1967, 17 states had laws banning interracial marriage. Mississippi did not vote to ratify the 13th amendment of the US constitution, which outlawed slavery, until 1995. Of course, legal segregation is a distant memory today, and race in America is not the chasm it once was. The country has had a black president and immigrants, white and non-white, have become rich and famous. Yet Mr Trump has, in a short space of time, remoulded the Republican party by excluding and gagging anyone who challenges him. This is no longer a question of the Republican leadership’s inability to deal with the president’s racism, but of its complicity in it.Mr Trump is an heir to the tradition of American failure on race, one which misunderstands or ignores the country’s fundamental premise that people, in the words of Martin Luther King, “not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character”. In business such racism might be deplored but considered a private affair. However, in office it is an understatement to say that a bigoted, misogynistic narcissist is unfit to be US president. Mr Trump has long thought that only white people can be considered truly citizens and that immigrants are only conditionally American. So it came as no surprise to hear the US president tell four female members of Congress, all of whom are not white, to “go back” to the countries “from which they came”.This is straight-up racism and resonates with the foundational idea of white nationalism that Mr Trump has long embraced. In deed and act Mr Trump violates the values the US aspires to uphold – equality under the law, religious liberty, equal protection, and protection from persecution – because he does not believe in them. Last weekend he authorised raids without warrants on thousands of families as part of his ongoing attempt to deport 11 million undocumented migrants, many of whom have lived in the country for years. This week he announced plans to end asylum on the US-Mexico border, which lawyers say will be found unlawful by the courts. Mr Trump’s actions are meant to be a constant reminder of who is in charge, and are a snub to the idea in respect of civil rights that all citizens are equal before the law.In particular, Mr Trump chafes against the idea that the US constitution is colour blind. Last November he threatened to use an executive order to scrap the guarantee of birthright citizenship in the US. In doing so, he was seeking to take a wrecking ball to the US constitution. Its 14th amendment decrees that any person born in the country is a citizen, and that states may not “abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens”, or deprive them of “life, liberty, or property without due process of law”, or deny them the “equal protection of the laws”. His long record of racism leads one to conclude that Mr Trump thinks such safeguards in the country’s legal rule book should only apply to white people. White Christians are no longer the majority in America, but they’re still driving election results.Whether or not Mr Trump can actually entrench their rule is not the point. His racism has two purposes: one is to distract voters from his real intent; the other is to energise his voting base as he heads into the 2020 election. His core vote is hostile to sexual and racial minorities. Mr Trump’s calculation is that his political survival depends on inflaming those antagonisms to get his vote out. But there is evidence that such messages of hate do not resonate with the American public. As Mr Trump explodes rightwards, the public mood appears to have shifted sharply left. He wants his base to burn with anger. Americans hopefully will remain, as the polls indicate, thermostatic: when things get too hot, they’ll turn down the heat. Eh? So you can’t call an open racist an open racist now? What fresh silliness is this? This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Report Ross King Jane and John have tea with Hilter:-) Report Report | Pick 112 113 Facebook Achillesheel2010 … | Pick Twitter Reply Report 21 22 28 29 4d ago Support The Guardian AJVC1991 Twitter Share on Facebook 4d ago Share on Facebook 4d ago Jump to comment 28 29 Share on Twitter Share on Twitter The language and othering Trump is marshaling can be found in the Nazi archives. And he’s not the only one… Share on Facebook Trump to Boris…We can do a bigly trade deal Boris to Trump…Wibble wobble great yes, greater than the Roman Empire, or some such incoherent nonsenseTrump to Boris…We like that Farage guy, reckon the deal will be done so quick with him here as ambassador.Boris…Wibblewobble, that’s fantastic, where’s the dotted line? 33 34 Share Share Share Share on Twitter rumblestrips Report Report | Pick Twitter Facebook Race | Pick All Share on Twitter 51 52 Twitter Share on Twitter Report What’s up with her milquetoast husband anyway? Is he the designated conscience of the house? Twitter | Pick 4d ago And to think that he would have been prevented by a proper electoral system… | Pick 4d ago Share on Twitter He calls them Pocahontas for example. Share Report Share AJVC1991 Topics asparagusnextleft Share on Facebook | Pick 4d ago Share on Facebook 34 35 BlueBeard Share on Twitter BlueBeard Facebook Show 14 more replies Show 6 more replies Jump to comment Facebook Share on Facebook AlienBodo Facebook AJVC1991 4d ago Share on Facebook Reply Share on Twitter Facebook Twitter Share | Pick Report Facebook “US citizens are buying Chinese goods because they think that they are better than American goods.” Not really the case though. They buy them because they’re cheap and because they’re often the only goods available. Don’t forget you are talking about the very people who used to have decent jobs making those very goods. I’ve always loved the US, had a lot of amazing family holidays there when I was young, I always hoped to take my own family there and show them what I saw. But to see this wonderful melting pot country revealed as a festering resentful swamp of hatred, to see this venal snake-oil scumbag pull back the mask and show that any and all social progress of the last 200 years has been all for show, I wouldn’t take my children anywhere near it. And Biden’s approach of “this is all a blip, an abberation”, that is denial of the highest order. Trump has shattered that order, showed the US establishment for what it has always been, and he should be thanked for it. Then he should die painfully on the toilet. John Kennedy 37 38 4 5 UnrepentantPunk Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Twitter Report Share Achillesheel2010 He is telling 3 American born Congresswomen of color to go home. Your answer ‘there are 11 million illegal immigrants’ is not racist at all. Twitter Share Report Show 1 more reply papalazaru Reply 1 Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter | Pick ColinCaserole Share on WhatsApp Report Twitter Opinion Share Last modified on Tue 16 Jul 2019 18.45 EDT oldest | Pick struttingpig Share on Twitter 9 10 Reply Report | Pick Identity Politics for the White Working Class – Bannon’s strategy lives on. Echoed by that dreadful Kellyanne Conway; somehow convincing that the vast majority of privileged Americans that they are being put at the back of the line. Drumming them up into more and more hated. There is most certainly inequality and prejudice in America, but it is not the like of Conway and Trump who are experiencing it. 51 52 This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. 27 28 4d ago Guardian Pick Report 66 67 Trumbledon Report | Pick rebelinfocom If you dog whistle to racists, you are a racist yourself… Share on Facebook 4 Facebook Twitter … | Pick Reply Metropolitanmother Donald Trump 4d ago Trump is a fascist, and the GOP supports him. Share on Facebook Share Trump’s favourite book is probably Mein Kampf by the sound of him. A lot of good Americans lost their lives fighting fascism whilst big bully Trump draft dodged three times! Twitter Facebook TeDots Twitter 4d ago Facebook 45 46 Reply Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Facebook Report Facebook Share on Twitter Facebook | Pick Facebook jae426 Share on Twitter 4d ago Share | Pick Share on Facebook Facebook Reply 4d ago | Pick Share on Twitter Twitter Report | Pick The US president’s bigotry has a political purpose: to distract voters and energise his base. He doesn’t care about the damage he might inflict in the process Close report comment form Facebook Share Twitter Reply This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Guardian Pick LucianOfSamosata 26 27 Hope you still get to take them to see for themselves that amazingly diverse country in all its shame and glory. 31 32 Reply Share on Facebook 4d ago 4d ago Show 3 more replies He is a racist, misogynist, weasly man with stupid hair but I don’t think enough of the American public will be significantly offended enough to not vote for him. I saw a Twitter feed of one of his shill supporters, a young black woman (Republican!) wilfully oblivious of his recent shame and it made me die a little bit inside. I hope I’m wrong but if Trump shouts loudly enough about the success of their economy and the size of their military (always size with him) then all other considerations are secondary to American voters. Reply 182 183 Share on Facebook | Pick Share on Facebook He is not a reader… Since you’re here… Facebook Facebook 143 144 4d ago 4d ago Share Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Twitter Please select Personal abuse Off topic Legal issue Trolling Hate speech Offensive/Threatening language Copyright Spam Other 73 74 Twitter Share on Facebook Sign in or create your Guardian account to recommend a comment View more commentslast_img read more